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		<title>By: Nathaniel Salzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Salzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you&#039;re welcome! I just had to refer to it myself today. I installed one of these on my motorcycle and could almost do it from memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you&#8217;re welcome! I just had to refer to it myself today. I installed one of these on my motorcycle and could almost do it from memory.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally a very well explained instructions! Thanks Nathaniel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally a very well explained instructions! Thanks Nathaniel.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Salzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Salzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I could help!</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas Milligan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Milligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this guide, fitting one of these to my VW Golf and could find no clear instructions on the net, very helpful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this guide, fitting one of these to my VW Golf and could find no clear instructions on the net, very helpful!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Salzman</title>
		<link>http://www.nathanielsalzman.com/scooters/diy-stebel-nautilus-air-horn/comment-page-1/#comment-6813</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Salzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first installation I ever did had a bad relay in the box and it took us hours to figure out that was the issue. What had happened was that the copper arm inside the relay that makes and brakes the connection between the battery and the horn had slipped sideways and gotten caught on a piece of plastic inside the casing. It could have happened in shipping or been a manufacturing error. Now that said, that doesn&#039;t mean that&#039;s what you&#039;ve got here, but our bad relay did click and buzz a little bit as that armature hit the plastic. 

I&#039;m assuming your wires are accessible at the relay? If so, you&#039;ll need to test for basically four likely scenarios:

1. The fuse in your auxiliary power wire has blown
2. The horn itself has failed
3. The switch on the handlebars has failed
4. The relay has failed

#1 - I&#039;d start here. Assuming you installed an inline fuse on the wire you ran from the (+) battery terminal, make sure that hasn&#039;t blown out. If it has, the relay is asking for power via the handlebar switch (the noise you&#039;re hearing) but not getting any current from the battery.

#2 — The easiest way to check if the horn works is to hook it up directly to a 12V battery source like a car battery. Depending on how you&#039;ve installed it, you&#039;ll have to figure out the best way to do that. Pro tip: wear ear plugs!

#3 — If you are hearing a click or other noise when you press the switch on your handlebars, then we can likely rule out the handlebar switch. The way to test for sure would be to unhook the wires from terminal 85 and the one opposite on the relay (the OEM wires). Hook up your voltmeter to those two wires and push the horn button on your handlebars. You should get current. If not, then either the switch is bad, or something has unhooked or shorted between that switch and the relay in the OEM wiring. But again, if you&#039;re getting a click or a buzz at the relay, then that switch is probably fine.

#4 — If the relay is bad, the way to test it would be to unhook the horn wires from the relay (the two wires at 90º to terminal 85), hook up the voltmeter to the relay on those terminals, then press the switch at the handlebars. If no current passes through the relay when the switch is pressed, then there you go: dead relay. Replacement relays can be had easily at your local auto parts store in the driving lights section. It even has terminal 85 labeled, so the replacement should be a direct one. The one relay one I had to replace even had the mounting tab in the same spot. 

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first installation I ever did had a bad relay in the box and it took us hours to figure out that was the issue. What had happened was that the copper arm inside the relay that makes and brakes the connection between the battery and the horn had slipped sideways and gotten caught on a piece of plastic inside the casing. It could have happened in shipping or been a manufacturing error. Now that said, that doesn&#8217;t mean that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve got here, but our bad relay did click and buzz a little bit as that armature hit the plastic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming your wires are accessible at the relay? If so, you&#8217;ll need to test for basically four likely scenarios:</p>
<p>1. The fuse in your auxiliary power wire has blown<br />
2. The horn itself has failed<br />
3. The switch on the handlebars has failed<br />
4. The relay has failed</p>
<p>#1 &#8211; I&#8217;d start here. Assuming you installed an inline fuse on the wire you ran from the (+) battery terminal, make sure that hasn&#8217;t blown out. If it has, the relay is asking for power via the handlebar switch (the noise you&#8217;re hearing) but not getting any current from the battery.</p>
<p>#2 — The easiest way to check if the horn works is to hook it up directly to a 12V battery source like a car battery. Depending on how you&#8217;ve installed it, you&#8217;ll have to figure out the best way to do that. Pro tip: wear ear plugs!</p>
<p>#3 — If you are hearing a click or other noise when you press the switch on your handlebars, then we can likely rule out the handlebar switch. The way to test for sure would be to unhook the wires from terminal 85 and the one opposite on the relay (the OEM wires). Hook up your voltmeter to those two wires and push the horn button on your handlebars. You should get current. If not, then either the switch is bad, or something has unhooked or shorted between that switch and the relay in the OEM wiring. But again, if you&#8217;re getting a click or a buzz at the relay, then that switch is probably fine.</p>
<p>#4 — If the relay is bad, the way to test it would be to unhook the horn wires from the relay (the two wires at 90º to terminal 85), hook up the voltmeter to the relay on those terminals, then press the switch at the handlebars. If no current passes through the relay when the switch is pressed, then there you go: dead relay. Replacement relays can be had easily at your local auto parts store in the driving lights section. It even has terminal 85 labeled, so the replacement should be a direct one. The one relay one I had to replace even had the mounting tab in the same spot. </p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: not electronically inclined</title>
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		<dc:creator>not electronically inclined</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good writeup. i installed one of these about a year and a half ago and it has stopped working. any chance you&#039;d do that trouble-shooting section? 

how do you test:
double check continuity on your wires
make sure you’re grounded to the frame

i can hear my relay doing something when i hit the horn button, but no honk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good writeup. i installed one of these about a year and a half ago and it has stopped working. any chance you&#8217;d do that trouble-shooting section? </p>
<p>how do you test:<br />
double check continuity on your wires<br />
make sure you’re grounded to the frame</p>
<p>i can hear my relay doing something when i hit the horn button, but no honk.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nathaniel! I used this guide for a Stebel Magnum and it worked great, once I figured out what crimping was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nathaniel! I used this guide for a Stebel Magnum and it worked great, once I figured out what crimping was.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Salzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Salzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

The scooter I use as the example in this article is 12V neg earth, so the wiring diagram should work for you just fine. If you&#039;re replacing your existing horn, then just follow the instructions verbatim. If you&#039;re supplementing, then you&#039;ll need to splice into the positive wire for your existing horn to the relay instead of simply plugging it in. Does that make sense? You&#039;re using the existing horn wire to trigger the relay and the new wire you&#039;ve run from the battery through the relay to power the new horn. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>The scooter I use as the example in this article is 12V neg earth, so the wiring diagram should work for you just fine. If you&#8217;re replacing your existing horn, then just follow the instructions verbatim. If you&#8217;re supplementing, then you&#8217;ll need to splice into the positive wire for your existing horn to the relay instead of simply plugging it in. Does that make sense? You&#8217;re using the existing horn wire to trigger the relay and the new wire you&#8217;ve run from the battery through the relay to power the new horn. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Yates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys do you have wiring diagram/instructions for a 12v neg earth car (2003 mx5 sport) your help would be most appreciated - Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys do you have wiring diagram/instructions for a 12v neg earth car (2003 mx5 sport) your help would be most appreciated &#8211; Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Salzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Salzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely let me know if that Silverstar bulb actually makes a difference. I&#039;ve thought about doing that myself, although I do very little night riding as it is. Nothing wrong with being more visible during the day though. I suppose if nothing else, the whiter (bluer?) light would look more high-end. Is that worth my $20 though? Hmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely let me know if that Silverstar bulb actually makes a difference. I&#8217;ve thought about doing that myself, although I do very little night riding as it is. Nothing wrong with being more visible during the day though. I suppose if nothing else, the whiter (bluer?) light would look more high-end. Is that worth my $20 though? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
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